Comments on: Eten Glofiish M800 Review: Part II http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/ Making Windows Mobile Life Better Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:54:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Victor http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2790 Victor Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:21:17 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2790 Sorry, I meant RAM in comment above. Sorry, I meant RAM in comment above.

]]> By: Tariq Bamadhaj http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2789 Tariq Bamadhaj Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:16:31 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2789 That's hat Part IV is all about. Stay tuned. That’s hat Part IV is all about. Stay tuned.

]]> By: Victor http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2788 Victor Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:12:28 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2788 Thanks a lot, Tariq! Very useful review. However, I would like to know is 64Mb of ROM enough for running WM6 on this device. What about its performance? How many applications can you keep running without any slowdown? Thanks a lot, Tariq! Very useful review.
However, I would like to know is 64Mb of ROM enough for running WM6 on this device. What about its performance? How many applications can you keep running without any slowdown?

]]> By: Tariq Bamadhaj http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2744 Tariq Bamadhaj Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:13:47 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2744 To add on to Helmy's response, the advantages of a VGA device is the 'extra' screen real estate that you get because the smallest fonts are still readable while on a qVGA screen, they tend to be smudged out. With regards to your web page question, I don't think you would be able to see as much as on the desktops (that could be limited to screen size) but you will get to see a lot more than what you usually see on the qVGA screen. While the letters are tiny, they are indeed crisp and fine that you can read it without any difficulty. This applies to a lot of other applications as well. For example, in your PIM (such as Pocket Informant), you could see a lot more entries on say the Agenda screen because the font can be minimized and show a lot more details. In navigation software like Google Maps and Live Search, you can also see a larger area and when you zoom in, the maps look really good on the VGA screen. In short, everything looks much better on a VGA screen than on a qVGA screen, no doubt about that. To add on to Helmy’s response, the advantages of a VGA device is the ‘extra’ screen real estate that you get because the smallest fonts are still readable while on a qVGA screen, they tend to be smudged out.

With regards to your web page question, I don’t think you would be able to see as much as on the desktops (that could be limited to screen size) but you will get to see a lot more than what you usually see on the qVGA screen. While the letters are tiny, they are indeed crisp and fine that you can read it without any difficulty.

This applies to a lot of other applications as well. For example, in your PIM (such as Pocket Informant), you could see a lot more entries on say the Agenda screen because the font can be minimized and show a lot more details. In navigation software like Google Maps and Live Search, you can also see a larger area and when you zoom in, the maps look really good on the VGA screen.

In short, everything looks much better on a VGA screen than on a qVGA screen, no doubt about that.

]]> By: Helmy http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2743 Helmy Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:29:09 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2743 I went to check out the M800 they have at a local store. Although definitely not hot-looking as TyTN II, the VGA screen takes my breath away. To answer my own assumptions above: 1) Zoom level at 50% in Excel is still readable in VGA screen 2) No pdf viewer on M800 though 3) Zoom level at 75% in Opera 8.5 is still readable in VGA screen 4) Pictures do look more beatiful I went to check out the M800 they have at a local store. Although definitely not hot-looking as TyTN II, the VGA screen takes my breath away. To answer my own assumptions above:
1) Zoom level at 50% in Excel is still readable in VGA screen
2) No pdf viewer on M800 though
3) Zoom level at 75% in Opera 8.5 is still readable in VGA screen
4) Pictures do look more beatiful

]]> By: Helmy http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2731 Helmy Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:39:04 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2731 I have no experience yet with VGA screen (will do later today when I get my hands on a test phone at a local store), but I would think that the text would too small to be read if you zoom out too much. However, it would be usable if you do the following: 1) for Excel, even though the text is still readable at 50% zoom when using QVGA screen, however, it's not so comfortable viewing it. But, it would be better with VGA since it will be sharper. So, you can use this zoom level as standard, and so, you have more real estate for doing your work on at any one time 2) It's more comfortable reading PDF files in full-page mode using VGA screen, since again, it's sharper, although, again, the text is smaller 3) With IE's zoom feature, you can see better the text where you want to zoom into since the text is sharper. The same with opera 9.5 I presume which has similar feature, although I don't have experience with it yet 4) crisper pictures Actually, that's all I can think at the moment. Anybody else want to add? P/s: Tariq or anybody who has M800 has to verify whether my claims above were true or not I have no experience yet with VGA screen (will do later today when I get my hands on a test phone at a local store), but I would think that the text would too small to be read if you zoom out too much. However, it would be usable if you do the following:
1) for Excel, even though the text is still readable at 50% zoom when using QVGA screen, however, it’s not so comfortable viewing it. But, it would be better with VGA since it will be sharper. So, you can use this zoom level as standard, and so, you have more real estate for doing your work on at any one time
2) It’s more comfortable reading PDF files in full-page mode using VGA screen, since again, it’s sharper, although, again, the text is smaller
3) With IE’s zoom feature, you can see better the text where you want to zoom into since the text is sharper. The same with opera 9.5 I presume which has similar feature, although I don’t have experience with it yet
4) crisper pictures

Actually, that’s all I can think at the moment. Anybody else want to add?

P/s: Tariq or anybody who has M800 has to verify whether my claims above were true or not

]]> By: David Friedman http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2729 David Friedman Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:43:57 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2729 I have one question about the M800 and other VGA phones. To what extent can you really take advantage of the high resolution, given the small size of the screen? If you look at a web page, can you see and read as much of it as you could on an ordinary vga screen, such as what used to be standard on desktops, or do you end up with letters too tiny to read? I have one question about the M800 and other VGA phones. To what extent can you really take advantage of the high resolution, given the small size of the screen? If you look at a web page, can you see and read as much of it as you could on an ordinary vga screen, such as what used to be standard on desktops, or do you end up with letters too tiny to read?

]]> By: Tariq Bamadhaj http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2660 Tariq Bamadhaj Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:42:46 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2660 Thanks Helmy. I am glad you found it so. Yeah I noticed that the M810 has 35 keys because it lacks the 4 arrow direction keys and the TAB key, but to be honest, I think I could live with that if I had a wider keyboard. Then again, I might have not gotten used to this keyboard which is my rant. But I do expect that if I kept the device, I would get used to it and type much faster, just as I was able to with those numeric keypads back on older phone models. Thanks Helmy. I am glad you found it so.

Yeah I noticed that the M810 has 35 keys because it lacks the 4 arrow direction keys and the TAB key, but to be honest, I think I could live with that if I had a wider keyboard. Then again, I might have not gotten used to this keyboard which is my rant. But I do expect that if I kept the device, I would get used to it and type much faster, just as I was able to with those numeric keypads back on older phone models.

]]> By: Tariq Bamadhaj http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2659 Tariq Bamadhaj Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:40:44 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2659 Thanks for those pointers. I do agree that the keyboard takes some getting used to. I would have loved a wider one too but then it might make the device too wide. VGA being the standard might just be something to look forward to especially with the newer chipsets announced at MWC '08. Thanks for those pointers. I do agree that the keyboard takes some getting used to. I would have loved a wider one too but then it might make the device too wide.

VGA being the standard might just be something to look forward to especially with the newer chipsets announced at MWC ‘08.

]]> By: Helmy http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2656 Helmy Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:17:27 +0000 http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/08/eten-glofiish-m800-review-part-ii/#comment-2656 Very informative review, Tariq. Thanks. Glad you enjoy the VGA screen Just wanna comment about M810 keyboard. If u didn't notice, it only has 35 keys, while M800 has 41 keys. That's why M810 can maximize the space. However, I prefer more number of keys (ie M800) over optimized usage of space. However, I understand spwimkel's concern over the closeness of left softkey with 'a', & accidentally pressing send send instead of 'a' when using sms. However, my experience with TyTN II's has been good. Even though the left softkey is close to T & R, i never accidentally pressed send Very informative review, Tariq. Thanks. Glad you enjoy the VGA screen

Just wanna comment about M810 keyboard. If u didn’t notice, it only has 35 keys, while M800 has 41 keys. That’s why M810 can maximize the space. However, I prefer more number of keys (ie M800) over optimized usage of space. However, I understand spwimkel’s concern over the closeness of left softkey with ‘a’, & accidentally pressing send send instead of ‘a’ when using sms. However, my experience with TyTN II’s has been good. Even though the left softkey is close to T & R, i never accidentally pressed send

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