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	<title>Comments on: The End Of Windows Mobile?</title>
	<link>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/</link>
	<description>Making Windows Mobile Life Better</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: becky</title>
		<link>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2798</guid>
		<description>I agree with commenter "Gbot".  The iphone fanatics scare me... otherwise I'd totally get one. They look great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with commenter &#8220;Gbot&#8221;.  The iphone fanatics scare me&#8230; otherwise I&#8217;d totally get one. They look great!</p>
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		<title>By: spmwinkel</title>
		<link>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>spmwinkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2764</guid>
		<description>"Exchange was the only thing that prevented the iPhone from coming into the corporate world, which was Microsoft’s and RIM’s playing field. Why do you think Microsoft licensed it to Apple?"
For money. Now Microsoft gets money from Apple and they can say "HA! Apple needs us." Would Microsoft really be so stupid to think "Sure, let's help Apple become more succesfull at the cost of our WM platform without us profiting!"? I think there has to be something in for Microsoft as well. I just hope that they will use that to keep WM alive and not let it die and use the benefits they gain from this for other stuff.

"With their SDK due out soon, do you think most developers of Windows Mobile will switch camps? Considering that the cut Apple will take is significantly lower than what Handango (which is supported by Microsoft) is taking, wouldn’t it seem more attractive to them?"
If they do that, they prove to be very unloyal to their Windows Mobile userbase. That means that we can still use the excellent applications currently out there, but that we should question if we still WANT products of those unloyal developers, and if we want them to get our money. However, IF most developers will switch, and WM7 apps will be incompatible with WM6 apps, there might be the situation that there are no longer good applications (thinking SBSH, Ilium, and WebIS stuff, etc) for WM, and people will switch to iPhone because of the better software offering. But that would be a very large change (from not allowing 3rd party software to beating WM in 3rd party software offering) and I don't want to see that happen just yet. If it happens, please let it be gradually so that everyone can adjust to the new situation and everyone can purchase iPhones which will hopefully be affordable and get a less exclusive/restricted character.

"Why would anyone want to buy a Windows Mobile device over and iPhone?"
A history of third party software development, and an existing, experienced, consumer base. Lots of solutions/forums/software/tweaks are already available.

"What do you think Microsoft can do to help Windows Mobile? "
Improve consumer advertising, and make sure they get it right with WM7. It not only has to beat iPhone 1.0, but also the new one with 3rd party apps, activesync, that kind of stuff.

"Or is all this just something that is blown out of proportion?"
I think we've already seen that the iPhone is a serious risk for MS (remember the Google folks who thought the great amount of iPhone visiters was an error in their reports?). But even if it wouldn't be, Microsoft should still get the message that people want a large step ahead in WM! (And I believe that they got the message, since I want to have faith in WM7)

Hmmm I´m a bit in a iPhone hate mood this morning, which is weird, because I´ve really started listening to podcasts a LOT the last few weeks, so I do really like the iPod...  :roll:  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Exchange was the only thing that prevented the iPhone from coming into the corporate world, which was Microsoft’s and RIM’s playing field. Why do you think Microsoft licensed it to Apple?&#8221;<br />
For money. Now Microsoft gets money from Apple and they can say &#8220;HA! Apple needs us.&#8221; Would Microsoft really be so stupid to think &#8220;Sure, let&#8217;s help Apple become more succesfull at the cost of our WM platform without us profiting!&#8221;? I think there has to be something in for Microsoft as well. I just hope that they will use that to keep WM alive and not let it die and use the benefits they gain from this for other stuff.</p>
<p>&#8220;With their SDK due out soon, do you think most developers of Windows Mobile will switch camps? Considering that the cut Apple will take is significantly lower than what Handango (which is supported by Microsoft) is taking, wouldn’t it seem more attractive to them?&#8221;<br />
If they do that, they prove to be very unloyal to their Windows Mobile userbase. That means that we can still use the excellent applications currently out there, but that we should question if we still WANT products of those unloyal developers, and if we want them to get our money. However, IF most developers will switch, and WM7 apps will be incompatible with WM6 apps, there might be the situation that there are no longer good applications (thinking SBSH, Ilium, and WebIS stuff, etc) for WM, and people will switch to iPhone because of the better software offering. But that would be a very large change (from not allowing 3rd party software to beating WM in 3rd party software offering) and I don&#8217;t want to see that happen just yet. If it happens, please let it be gradually so that everyone can adjust to the new situation and everyone can purchase iPhones which will hopefully be affordable and get a less exclusive/restricted character.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why would anyone want to buy a Windows Mobile device over and iPhone?&#8221;<br />
A history of third party software development, and an existing, experienced, consumer base. Lots of solutions/forums/software/tweaks are already available.</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you think Microsoft can do to help Windows Mobile? &#8221;<br />
Improve consumer advertising, and make sure they get it right with WM7. It not only has to beat iPhone 1.0, but also the new one with 3rd party apps, activesync, that kind of stuff.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or is all this just something that is blown out of proportion?&#8221;<br />
I think we&#8217;ve already seen that the iPhone is a serious risk for MS (remember the Google folks who thought the great amount of iPhone visiters was an error in their reports?). But even if it wouldn&#8217;t be, Microsoft should still get the message that people want a large step ahead in WM! (And I believe that they got the message, since I want to have faith in WM7)</p>
<p>Hmmm I´m a bit in a iPhone hate mood this morning, which is weird, because I´ve really started listening to podcasts a LOT the last few weeks, so I do really like the iPod&#8230;  <img src='http://www.etenblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.etenblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: GBot</title>
		<link>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>GBot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2755</guid>
		<description>I've got nothing against the iPhone... I just can't stand the douchebags that use it.

Seriously though, it's waaaaay to early to tell what impact the SDK will have. Consumers need options, so unless HTC, Motorola, Sony, and countless other 3rd parties just decide to shrivel up and die, Windows Mobile has plenty of time to evolve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got nothing against the iPhone&#8230; I just can&#8217;t stand the douchebags that use it.</p>
<p>Seriously though, it&#8217;s waaaaay to early to tell what impact the SDK will have. Consumers need options, so unless HTC, Motorola, Sony, and countless other 3rd parties just decide to shrivel up and die, Windows Mobile has plenty of time to evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Baez</title>
		<link>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier Baez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.etenblog.com/2008/03/10/the-end-of-windows-mobile/#comment-2754</guid>
		<description>My iMate Ultimate 6150 is already in sale, I might sell it for $500 if I don't receive more bids

YES, SDK was the only thing preventing me to switch to iPhone, now I can have a phone that plays music (16 GB), compatible with iTunes, and now I can install programs, games...

I even installed a program on a iPhone Touch that synchs the lyrics of the songs, so my phone is a karaoke!

It gets the lyrics from the internet, displays them (synched), and if they need synch, I can synch that myself, just by pressing on the album icon while hearing the song

Beat that Windows Mobile

Oh yeah SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 came out. That means $15 more for me, I DID BOUGHT SPB Mobile Shell 1.0

So instead of feeling happy for the new version, I need to pay over 50% for the upgrade?

with an iPhone EVERYTHING will be free

I know how to jailbreak and unlock the iPhone now, I feel like a hacker again

Yes, I already ordered an iPhone, big screen, nice colors, only thing missing is the compatibility with that an the Kenwood in-dash

BUT, I am happy, now I will only need one device on the gym, I can workout, answer calls, and use notes to keep track of my progress

Beat that windows :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My iMate Ultimate 6150 is already in sale, I might sell it for $500 if I don&#8217;t receive more bids</p>
<p>YES, SDK was the only thing preventing me to switch to iPhone, now I can have a phone that plays music (16 GB), compatible with iTunes, and now I can install programs, games&#8230;</p>
<p>I even installed a program on a iPhone Touch that synchs the lyrics of the songs, so my phone is a karaoke!</p>
<p>It gets the lyrics from the internet, displays them (synched), and if they need synch, I can synch that myself, just by pressing on the album icon while hearing the song</p>
<p>Beat that Windows Mobile</p>
<p>Oh yeah SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 came out. That means $15 more for me, I DID BOUGHT SPB Mobile Shell 1.0</p>
<p>So instead of feeling happy for the new version, I need to pay over 50% for the upgrade?</p>
<p>with an iPhone EVERYTHING will be free</p>
<p>I know how to jailbreak and unlock the iPhone now, I feel like a hacker again</p>
<p>Yes, I already ordered an iPhone, big screen, nice colors, only thing missing is the compatibility with that an the Kenwood in-dash</p>
<p>BUT, I am happy, now I will only need one device on the gym, I can workout, answer calls, and use notes to keep track of my progress</p>
<p>Beat that windows <img src='http://www.etenblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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