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The 5th and final part of this Eten Glofiish M800 review was made possible because of you, the readers. Thank you for your suggestions and tests on how I should carry out the review. They have really been useful and I have tried to carry out as much of them as I possibly could. Those that I could not, I looked around to see if someone else had done them and brought the results over (I will let you know which they are). So hopefully, all these tests and their results answer your questions.

I have listed all the tests below, even if they have been answered in other parts. If that is the case, I will let you know.

Test: First set up your Today screens with some third-party Today plugins like iLauncher, PocketBreeze, Spb P+ or whatever, and while you give your introduction, perform a soft reset. This will show the user how long a soft reset takes, and how fast the devices starts up a customized Today screen.

Result: I could not get the camcorder in time so I there is no video. However, I did the test and it took just under 1 minute (about 58-59 seconds) for the device to soft reset and start up again. This was with pocketMax phoneAlarm, SBSH iLauncher and Weather, Matepsoft TodayTime and Spb Backup as plguins on the Today Screen.

Test: I would like to see tests of how well it connects to the Internet. The first step would be to go to one of the web sites that provides a speed test and see just how fast it downloads and uploads. The next would be to set it up, if possible, as a wireless router, using the WiFi to create a network that laptops could connect to, and the 3G to connect the phone to the internet. I gather software to do that exists, although I haven’t used it. Then redo the speedtest-from a laptop.

Result: Unfortunately my carrier does not have 3G at this time and as such I am unable to carry out this test. However, based on another user, he claims to be getting speeds of about 250-500KBPS which is the same as what he got with his AT&T Tilt (HTC Kaiser). He is on the AT&T (USA) network. While the numbers may seem low, he did manage to get higher rates using a different device in the past so I doubt the limiting factor is the Glofiish M800 in this case because he got the same result with the Tilt.

Another user connected his Glofiish M800 to the laptop to do the speed test and he got HSPDA speeds (almost 2000kbps) but did not receive the same result when he used the Pocket PC directly.

So it seems that the Glofiish M800 is capable of HSPDA connection but there are questions as to how or when it is achieved.

Test: how well it works for reading books. How long does it take to load a book into the word processor and is there a practical limit to how many you can have loaded at once. I bought a Nokia E90 and then sent it back after discovering that it took about ten minutes to load a book and could only have one book loaded at a time, making it useless for one of the things I use a smart phone for.

Result: I did not carry out this test but another user and he claims that it’s great for ebooks (thanks to the VGA resolution). The ebooks load fast and you can load as many as you want.

Test: I want some comparison pictures between the X800 and M800 as far as their camera goes.

Result: I covered this in Part IV of the review. However, I did not compare it to the X800 (did not have one) but rather a Glofiish X500 and a Panasonic Digital Camera (Lumix FX-8) using the same 2MP resolution.

Test: Any differences between the x800 and this?

Result: I can’t say much because I do not have the Glofiish X800 to compare. Maybe the M800 has a newer version of Windows Mobile? But then again, if that were the case, the Glofiish X800 should get that in the next update.

Test: I would like to know about the limits the 64M RAM may impose. The most important (for me) would be to know how the M800 works with the latest iGO navi sw. iGO is THE most popular sw in my region (eastern Europe).

Result: I do not have the application so I can’t test it out. However, I did use TomTom and it worked pretty well (smooth). You can read about that in Part IV of the review.

Test: Does the keyboard buzz when it’s lit?

Result: Nope

Test: Are there lines on the pictures taken by the camera?

Result: See for yourself in Part IV. But the short answer is no.

Test: Is the microphone volume good?

Result: You be the judge of that. I covered this in Part IV. In my opinion, it is pretty good.

Test: Are the yellow keys illuminated by the keyboard light?

Result: Yes they are.

Test: Does suggest x words re-enable every soft reset?

Result: Nope. I disabled them and they’ve not come back since.

Test: Do any keyboard presses get skipped when typing a lot?

Result: I covered this in Part IV. Apparently, it does happen to the fastest of typists (I am not one) and only in the Message application.

Test: The VGA screen is a big factor for me, however I’ve heard some negatives things in the past with x500+ due to choppiness with web browsing, and videos, etc. I’d appreciate it if you could perhaps review the screen in this aspect.

Result: Did that in Part IV. Do check it out. Basically, you can still web browse (which is great on a VGA screen) and watch videos as long as they are coded properly.

Test: Does it have auto-call recording? (you can use AudioNotes to test)

Result: Yes it does but you need to use AudioNotes.

Test: Does it have good contacts management? eg a) save into existing contacts, b) sms contacts details to other phones, c) save contacts into sim

Result: Yes to all.

Test: Can it send pictures direct to spaces (Microsoft blogging website) using the Pictures and Videos app?

Result: Yes.

Test: Is the quick GPS app (download satellite data) useful, ie helps in fixing the satellite faster?

Result: Yes it is significantly faster when fixing from a cold start or warm start. For hot starts, there is not much difference because it is already so fast.

Test: Can you do battery test? I’m especially worried because of the VGA screen.

Result: This is hard to say because it depends on individual usage. For me, the device lasted just over a day on normal phone calls, some web surfing and emails. It would last longer if you used it more often.

Test: How long does the screen take to change to landscape mode after sliding out the keyboard?

Result: 3-4 seconds with all Eten applications installed. 1-2 seconds on a clean ROM.

Test: Does the qwerty keyboard has PgUp & PgDn abilities? Useful when scrolling internet

Result: Nope it does not have any.

Test: U did mention that your T-Mobile doesn’t have 3G yet, but if, by chance u got to use somebody else’s AT&T line, can u test the HSDPA speed using both on the phone, & on the laptop/PC(tethered using USB or bluetooth):

Result: I covered this earlier in the post.

Test: This is very important- it having VGA screen means we can zoom out Excel files and still can read the text. However, with both WM phones I used, Excel doesn’t remember my last zoom level. So, I had to re-zoom everytime. Does it have this problem too?

Result: Yes the problem is there.

Test: How good is the Bluetooth setting management?

Result: Really good because there are wizards to help you setup the various Bluetooth connections (like headset, ActiveSync and even File Transfer)

Test: Is there a keyboard shortcut to go home/end of a sentence?

Result: By that if you mean if there is a Home/End key, there is none.

Test: Do the contact-photos appear in incoming call, outgoing calls, dialpad last call, sms, e-mails and mms?

Result: Yes

Test: Does it have smart-dialling? iè in dialpad, u can use the keypad like T9 keypad, & it’ll search names for all combinations of the keypad numbers

Result: Yes it does. This is a the default behavior of the dial pad for Windows Mobile 6.

Test: how reliable is the internet sharing using either bluetooth or usb?

Result: Pretty reliable on my side. Did not have any disconnection.

Test: how good is the quality of stereo bluetooth when listening to MP3’s?

Result: Do not have a stereo Bluetooth headset to test.

Test: can you run benchmark on videos using tcpmp?

Result: I did that in Part IV.

Test: Is the Video camera quality ok?

Result: It’s alright for a Pocket PC. I would prefer to use the one on my digital camera/camcorder.

Test: Does the camera take pictures fast?

Result: It takes them fast but saving takes quite a while. Could be dependent on card speed.

Test: Are there LED Notifications for sms/mms received/ missed calls?

Result: Yes there are. These can be set in Sounds & Notifications.

Test: how good are the softkey assignments eg sms should have ‘new sms’ softkey instead of for example 4 key presses just to create new sms. Also, calendar softkey should have ‘edit’

Result: I am not sure I understand your question. If you are talking about the Today screen softkey, you can change that using applications or registry tweaks. If you are talking about softkeys within each application, then it would be dependent on each application.

Test: Are there press+hold assignments for side buttons (the front hard buttons are touch buttons, so, can’t) to launch apps?

Result: By default, only the recording button has a press and hold assignment in the Buttons application. This is standard for all Windows Mobile devices. There can be press and hold features added to all other buttons but that would require a third party application like AE Button Plus.

Test: Do contacts show the contacts’ call history?

Result: From within the phone application, click on the contact will show its call history. It’s a standard feature of Windows Mobile 6.

Test: At what percentage does battery-low-warning appear? Too low, like 10%, can sometimes mean, before u get a chance to charge, it already runs out & phone is shutdown.

Result: This can be tweaked. Mine appears at 20%

Test: Is there keyboard backlight setting so that there’s option to lengthen the time before it offs itself?

Result: At the moment, none that I know of. There should be a registry edit.

Test: can front-facing camera be used to take pictures?

Result: Yes, but it’s of a lower resolution (0.3MP).

Test: Is there a search function in sms, ie something which makes it easy to find text in past sms/ emails (sender/ to etc) just by typing the first few letters?

Result: You can use the default Search function of Windows Mobile to do this.

Test: How good is the 3G video-calling quality?

Result: Unable to test.

Test: Does it get warm when running too many programs?

Result: It does get warm but nothing uncomfortable.

Test: Is it slow during contacts ‘matching’, ie searching for names

Result: Nope, it’s almost instantaneous.

Test: How good is the ‘Save As’ feature? some WM phones don’t separate SD card from main memory folders

Result: All Windows Mobile Professional device do not separate the folders. But I have a guide on how you can do on this site.

Test: Is it still slow to load big Word files?

Result: It’s not slow though it does not open it instantaneously. It also depends on how big and complex the file is.

Test: Is there a ringtone profile, that when there is an appointment, it automaticaly sets phone to vibrate mode?

Result: No, you need a third-party application (e.g. phoneAlarm) for this.

Test: Can you download emails from company’s Microsoft Exchanger Server? and can you call-up company address book from within Pocket outlook using search? How reliable is the Push Mail feature?

Result: I do not use a company’s Exchange Server but tried with a free Push Mail service (Mail2Web) and it works fine. Was not able to use the search function because there is no company address book to test. Pretty reliable. No outages like RIM :P

Test: Can it accept vcard (contacts details) sent from other phones?

Result: Yes

Test: Does the SIP keyboard pop-up when slide-out keyboard is in use? Would be annoying if it did

Result: Yes it does but when you start typing on the keyboard, it auto-hides.

Test: Has your device the paint chipping problem (either whole device or only back cover)

Result: Thank god not so far.


So that brings me to the end of the this series on the review of the Eten Glofiish M800. I had it for about a month and while initially I it troublesome (due to the touch sensitive buttons mainly), I have come to enjoy it with each passing day. Like any new device, it would take some time for you to get used to and understand it so that you can maximize it to your needs.

The Eten Glofiish M800 was a great phone during the time I had it. Sure, it is slow and laggy out of the box, thanks to all that Eten applications but after a clean hard reset and some tweaking of the font cache and page pool, ,this device is really fast and snappy. I was really wrong about the VGA screen slowing the device down significantly. While there were slowdowns and choppiness here and there, it was few and far in between that it did not bother me.

If you are on the lookout for an Eten Glofiish M800, be sure to check out Networking ‘R’ Us who was kind enough to supply me with a device for the review. They go for $669 and come with a 1 year service warranty from PPCTechs in the USA. You also get the standard 1 year warranty from Eten which runs concurrently if you live outside the USA. Check it out here.

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Comment by spmwinkel Subscribed to comments via email
2008-03-29 03:27:42

Wow, that’s a lot of questions you answered there! Very thorough review, great job on the March article series. :cool:

Comment by Tariq Bamadhaj
2008-04-01 22:38:00

Thanks Stefan and it’s my last series here as well.

Comment by Helmy
2008-03-29 22:00:47

Thanks Tariq for answering many of my questions.

Guess we can’t do no wrong with a WM phone. All of the things I can do on my old Loox T830 WM5 phone can be done with M800 with WM6, and obviously many more were improved. The same with my TyTN II. In fact, there are some things that M800 can do that TyTN II can’t do like auto-call record

Also, Tariq, I convinced a friend to buy M800. Hope he enjoys it. I’ve also referred him to your website.

Comment by Tariq Bamadhaj
2008-04-01 22:54:27

Thanks Helmy. Thanks to Windows Mobile being pretty open, you could do a lot of things on it which is really awesome.

And thanks for telling your friend. I hope he (and you) would join us at My Today Screen as well.

Comment by Paul
2008-03-31 08:26:24

i wait for m800’s review for ages
and i found an awesome review here!!!!!

u done great job
thanks a lot

Comment by Tariq Bamadhaj
2008-04-01 22:59:28

Thanks Paul. I always try to do reviews that answers the questions people ask.

Comment by Marius
2008-04-02 13:31:58

Hi all, all I wanna say is that this is a great device, Now I have it for a week and it`s working very very good, I don`t have the paint problem, Igo 2006 plus works very good on it, it has a greas GPS reception,it connects to GPS in 5-10 seconds very fast, the phone quality is very good I have spb pocket plus,igo 2006 plus ,mms converter,tcpmp player with codescs,flash player and a lot of programs installed and with a soft reset I have about 20-21 mb ram so I have no problem with the memory, battery life is ….a full day of using all the functions. All I can say is that I`m happy that I bought it and I have only good words for m800 till now, hope I`ll have the same in the future. Sorry for my bad english (I`m from Romania :P) :) And thanx again to Tariq for the reviews, he helped me alot to decide of buying this ppc.

Comment by Marius
2008-04-02 13:40:18

ooo and I forgot, :) The only thing that I don`t like are the touch sensitive buttons but I have them disabled so I use only the joystick but I don`t care about them, I use the screen all the time, It`s fabulous. ;) keep us the good work. Can somebody tell me pls where can I find a freeware to tell me how much GPRS traffic I`m using? :D thanx


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